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தமிழரின் தொன்மையான கண்ணகி கோயில் – சிறப்புப் படங்களுடன் ஒரு அறிமுகம்!

தமிழரின் தொன்மையான கண்ணகி கோயில் – ஒரு அறிமுகம்


மிழக – கேரள எல்லையில் உள்ள கண்ணகி கோயிலும், ஆண்டுக்கு ஒரு முறை சித்ரா பவுர்ணமியன்று அந்தக் கோயிலுக்குச் செல்ல தமிழர்கள் படும் பாடுகளும்தான் நிறைய பேருக்கு தெரிந்திருக்கும்.

ஆனால் தமிழ்நாட்டுக்குள், தமிழ் மன்னர்களால் கட்டப்பட்ட இன்னுமொரு கண்ணகி கோயில் உள்ளது பலருக்கும் தெரிந்திருக்காது. இந்தக் கோயில் இருப்பது தூத்துக்குடி மாவட்டம் மாறமங்கலம் – கொற்கைக்கு இடையில். வரலாற்றில் நாம் படித்த பாண்டியர்களின் தலைமை துறைமுக நகரமான அதே கொற்கைதான் இது. தூத்துக்குடியிலிருந்து 15 கிமீ தூரத்தில் உள்ளது.. இந்தப் பக்கம் ஏரலிலிருந்து போனால் 5 கிமீ!

இந்த இடத்திலிருந்து கப்பல்களில் பயணித்து கடல் கடந்து போய் வாணிகம் செய்திருக்கிறார்கள் பழந்தமிழர்கள். இங்குள்ள கோயிலில் இருப்பது, தமிழரின் கலாச்சார அடையாளங்களுள் ஒன்றாகக் கருதப்படும் கண்ணகியின் உண்மையான சிலை என்கிறார்கள்.

பல நூற்றாண்டுகளைப் பார்த்த கோயில். ரொம்ப ரம்யமான இடம்.

சுற்றிலும் பெரிய குளம்… அதன் முகப்பில் கண்ணகி கோயில், கிழக்குப் பார்த்து அமைந்துள்ளது.

கிட்டத்தட்ட 3000 ஆண்டுகளுக்கு முந்தைய 25-க்கும் மேற்பட்ட முதுமக்கள் தாழிகள் இந்தக் கோயிலைச் சுற்றியுள்ள குளப் பகுதிகளில் கண்டுபிடிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளன. அவற்றில் மனித எலும்புக் கூடுகள் இருந்தன. அவற்றை கார்பன் டேட்டட் முறையில் ஆய்வு செய்தபோதுதான், அவற்றுக்கு வயது 3000 ஆண்டுகள் என்பது உறுதிப்படுத்தப்பட்டது.

இந்தக் குளத்தை ஆய்வு செய்த போது, மேலடுக்கில் களிமண்ணும், அதன் அடியில் சாதாரண மண்ணும், கீழடுக்கில் கடல் மணலும் இருப்பது கண்டுபிடிக்கப்பட்டது.

குளத்தின் முகப்பிலேயே உள்ளது கண்ணகி கோயில். ரம்மியமான சூழல்…  இந்தக் கோயிலிலிருந்து சில சுரங்க வழிகள் கூட இருப்பதாகச் சொல்கிறார்கள்.


ஒரு சில தங்க நாணயங்களும் கிடைத்ததாகக் கூறுகிறார்கள். அதனால் தொடர்ந்து இங்கே தோண்டிக் கொண்டே இருந்திருக்கிறார்கள். இதில் உள்ள மணலையும் கொஞ்ச காலம் சுரண்டி எடுத்திருக்கிறார்கள். இப்போது இதற்கெல்லாம் தடை விதிக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது.

இப்போதும்கூட முதுமக்கள் தாழிகள் தட்டுப்படுவதாகவும், அவற்றின் பெருமை தெரியாமல் மக்கள் அவற்றை உடைத்துவிடுவதாகவும் ஆய்வாளர்கள் தெரிவித்துள்ளனர். ஆரம்பத்தில் அரசு அருங்காட்சியகம் ஒன்று

கண்ணகி குளத்தில் கிடைத்த 3000 ஆண்டு பழமை வாய்ந்த முதுமக்கள் தாழி…

கொற்கையில் ஆரம்பிக்கப்பட்டு, பின்னர் அது நெல்லைக்கு மாற்றப்பட்டுள்ளது. இப்போது கண்ணகி குளத்தின் பெருமை புரிந்து, மீண்டும் கொற்கைக்கு அரசு அருங்காட்சியகத்தை கொண்டுவருமாறு கோரிக்கை விடுத்து வருகின்றனர்.

இந்தக் கோயிலுக்கு சுற்றுலாப் பயணிகள் குவிந்து, திடீர் கடைகள் முளைத்து, இருக்கும் அழகை நாறடிக்க வேண்டும் என்பது சத்தியமாக நம் விருப்பமல்ல. ஆனால் இந்தக் கோயிலின் தொன்மையும், இங்கு வசித்த ஆதித் தமிழர்கள் நாகரீகமும் வரலாற்றில் முறையாகப் பதியப்பட வேண்டும் என்பதுதான் நம் ஆசை!

-என்வழி ஸ்பெஷல்

படங்கள்: ஜான்




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  1. தினகர்

    நமக்கு பக்கத்திலே இருக்கும் மனிதர்களின் பெருமைகளையும், பக்கத்தில் இருக்கும் அரிய பொக்கிஷங்களையும் நாம் உணர்வதில்லை என்பதற்கு இந்த கோவில் ஒரு சாட்சி.

    என்வழி அறிமுகம் செய்து வைத்த பிறகாவது தெரிந்து கொண்ட திருப்தி. இது போன்ற அரிய பணிகள் தொடரட்டும்.

  2. குமரன்

    சென்ற ஆண்டு தூத்துக்குடிக்கு ஒரு வேலையாகச் சென்றிருந்த பொது நண்பர் இந்த இடம் பற்றிச் சொன்னார், ஆனால் நேரமின்மை காரணமாகப் போக முடிய வில்லை.

    மூவாயிரம் ஆண்டுகளுக்கு முந்தைய முதுமக்கள் தாழி என்பது அங்கே பழைய குடியிருப்பை உறுதிப் படுத்துகிறது.

    கண்ணகியின் காலம், சிலப்பதிகாரத்தின் காலம், இளங்கோ அடிகளின் காலம் ஆகியவை உறுதி செய்யப் படவில்லை. சிலப்பதிகாரத்தின் காலம் கி.பி.மூன்றாம் நூற்றாண்டு என்பது ஏற்கத்தக்கதாக இல்லை. நமது வரலாற்றை மேற்கத்திய ஐரோப்பிய வரலாறுகளுடன் ஒப்பிடும்போது ஐரோப்பிய வரலாற்றாளர்கள் வேண்டுமென்றே நமது வராலாற்று நிகழ்வுகளில் காலத்தை மாற்றிக் குறிப்பிட்டுள்ளார்கள் என்ற ஐயப்பாடு வலுக்கிறது. இதற்கு துணைபோகும் விதமாக களப்பிரர் காலம் என்று கூறப்படும் காலத்தில் வரலாற்றுச் சுவடுகளே கிடைக்க வில்லை.

    நமது சங்கத்தமிழ்ப் பழம்பெரும் காப்பியங்களில் இரண்டை (வளையாபதி, குண்டலகேசி) இன்னமும் முழுமையாக கண்டே பிடிக்கவில்லை. குண்டலகேசியின் 99 பாடல்களில் 24 மட்டுமே கிடைத்துள்ளன. அவை நமக்குக் கிடைக்காமலே போய்விடுமோ என்ற வருத்தம் வலுக்கிறது. உ.வே.சாமிநாதையரின் முயற்சியால் புறநானூறு உள்ளிட்ட சங்க இலக்கியங்கள் கிடைத்ததை எண்ணி மகிழ வேண்டியதுதான் போலும்.

    நமது இலக்கியங்களை நம் முன்னோர்கள் ஓலைச் சுவடிகளில் எழுதிவைத்தார்கள். இப்போது ஆங்காங்கே நாடி ஜோதிடம் பார்க்கிறேன் என்று வைத்திருக்கும் ஓலைச் சுவடிகள் எல்லாமே ஏதாவது ஒரு பழந்தமிழ் பாடல்தான் என்றே எனக்குத் தோன்றும்,. அதன் அருமை தெரியாமல், அதை வைத்துக்கொண்டு வாயில் வந்த பாட்டைப் பாடிப் பணம் பண்ணுகிறார்கள் என்பது எனது ஐயம்.

    ///இந்தக் கோயிலுக்கு சுற்றுலாப் பயணிகள் குவிந்து, திடீர் கடைகள் முளைத்து, இருக்கும் அழகை நாறடிக்க வேண்டும் என்பது சத்தியமாக நம் விருப்பமல்ல. ///

    ஆனால் இதை மட்டும்தான் நம் மக்கள் செய்வார்கள்!!

  3. மிஸ்டர் பாவலன்

    பணியில் இருந்தும், வலையில் இருந்தும், முழு ஒய்வு பெற்றதும்
    திருமந்திரம், தேவாரம் முதலான பன்னிரு திருமுறைகள்,
    வடமொழி உபநிஷத்துகள் (எனக்கு சமஸ்க்ருதம் நேரிடையாக
    படித்து, பிரித்து, பொருள் உணர்ந்து கொள்ள முடியும்), மலையாள
    இலக்கியங்கள், புராணங்கள், புத்த மத சூத்திரங்கள் (தம்மபதம்,
    தாமரை சூத்திரம், வைர சூத்திரம் போன்றவை), பைபிள் போன்றவை
    படிக்க மிகவும் ஆசையாக உள்ளது. ஜெர்மன் நூல்களையும் சில வாங்கி
    வைத்துள்ளேன் படிப்பதற்கென்று.

    “ஆசை அறுமின், ஆசை அறுமின்” என பணி தான் இதற்கு தடையாக
    உள்ளது. தேவாரத் தலங்களை தமிழன்பர்கள், சைவர்கள் கண்டு சென்று
    பயனுறலாம். நமது வாழ்நாள் குறைவு. பயனுள்ள வாழ்வு காண்போம்.

    -=== மிஸ்டர் பாவலன் ===-

  4. karthik

    @ குமரன்

    நன்றி குமரன் அவர்களே.. சும்மா பிண்ணி எடுகரிங்க..

  5. b.gupta

    some thoughts and views ————

    Kannagi’s anklet was filled of diamonds and queen anklet was of pearls and in look were similar .
    why the in story why ankets were compared .
    compare shows in , diamonds and pearls , the kannagi would had been the very elder to the queen .
    some mishappenings would had been taken in very past and the stories would had been going on birth by birth..

    realy how many kannagi stories would had been created , how many girls would had made kannagi ,
    how many boys and small, gods , devatas would had been made to run the story -would had made culprits and victims)

    was the kannagi story was pre planned as in movie Agathiyar— agaytiar curses .( because of this writing how many lifes would be spoiled )
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    as agaytiar curses to jai indra /

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaTNovJ2u3k&list=UURxRikkS_B1mWxYWrujrdnw&spfreload=10

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    What was cause behind every happening , why kovalan only became culprit or victim ,like kovalan and kanagi , how many lifes are spoiled are being spoiled from the very ancient times ( no one is blamed , blamed is the system of karmas ). what would had been the cause behind kannagi and kovalan story as if shown in the agaytiar movie agaytiar curses jaindran , and urvashi to born in the city of poompuhar .were jai indran with urvashi affairs wrong . who was jai indran , and who was urvashi .

    person the indra was accused by the great gods , the link given below

    http://www.speakingtree.in/public/spiritual-blogs/ seekers/faith-and-rituals/
    bgupta#commentlist

    was jaiindra , his real son . in agaytiar movie agaytiar says to jai indra , jaiindra you born to indra and you have not understand me .

    in dasavataram old movie,durvasa rishi curses to indra story might had link ,
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FesZ3592YHg
    poompuhar ‘s story and history is match able to the story shown in agaythyiar movie — as agaythiar curses —
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh4_NTH_qW0&featur e=related

    crores and crores of peoples are being killed ,destryoed in such a way no one can find out , and given different shapes and made to bad brains and minds ,
    genetical deshaped and disorded to lusty and bad brains and bad minds .
    are made from single soul to multy humans souls to suffer and painful
    creatures to never become humans and buried alive under earth and even
    killed into stomaches and made to toilets and throughn into hells like
    toilets—

    Kannagi story was repeated again in the ambala under earth , this time also great cruilities happend on kannagi ,

    if i am not wrong , kannagi , (tamil) is the daughter or sister of great and very ancient god can be said southern god . .

    why the cruilities and mishappenings were and are happening again and again , what is the wrong with peoples and peoples went of wrong wisdom and misbehavings and bad acts ..
    and peoples are beaten very badly and broken and even buried alive by the great gods and goddesses and great humans gods like murgan bhiraspaty ,bharama ,
    dakshina moorty , narayanan , and many power full and great gods ..

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    Draupady , ganga ,kannagi , bhooma devi , saraswaties . sitas , and other devies and other good peoples were always and again and again insulted and were victim of cruielties and crimes .and girls like taraka(tataka) and her mother and her souls were accused and culprits and of cruilities ,why could not become good humans and peoples like others . why peoples became so bad and wrong even girl and ladies insulted ladies ,

    Was kunti and kunti’s humans and other souls were real cuilprits , in the 2012 ,13 ,2014 were beaten and killed very badlly by the gods like bharama , guru bhiraspati ,dakshina moorti , two goddess might be ganga and draupadi and other gods like may be ram ,krishna , and others .of many mahabharata story of one kunty was mother of human of taraka or taraka sister .according to one story draupadi was boon/cursed by shiva of five husdands . kunti and kunti’s humans and other souls would had been culprits or guilty of revenges .

    Were putana , who tried to kill krishna by making drink milk and other women ,like holika ,who tried to burn krishna and other womens and others were culprits or were became the cuplprits of wrong and bad traditions or bad karmas of karmas or some other traditions

    Why krishna ,rama ,shiva and others mahans elder peoples were good peoples and indras and others peoples were bad
    crores and crores have been destroyed and are being buried alive under earths , throughwn into hells and made landless ,
    why others peoles could not become good humans and good peoples

    who were those peoples , which has been and being killed ,destroyieded ,
    whose generations were , why were bad peoples , were really bad , why
    could not became good peoples ,

    Were rama and ravana were
    enemy ? , if i am not wrong rama shakti and murgan and veerbhadra are
    same avatars .(savarupnaga , ravana sister and sita might had been the close
    relative) .
    which peoples would had some wrong and intercaste marrages . intercaste marrages would had been the cause of quarrels there would had been great conspirancies to kill the peoples. which were from the westren and south westron parts of himayalas .in many stories of dakasa prajapati story also many wrong and multy wifes and mishappenigs happened . ( peoples which had to make lifes good and better , used the criminals ,enemities and wrong ideas and methods for spoiling and destroying the lifes )

    Culprits and cruel peoples , who had done cruelities
    on brahma and saraswati , and ganga and sita , ahiyilia , draupdi and on
    many goddesses and gods ,and on good peoples ,

    crores and crores of peoples are being killed ,destryoed in such a way no one can find out , and given different shapes and made to bad brains and minds ,
    genetical deshaped and disorded to lusty and bad brains and bad minds .
    are made from single soul to multy humans souls to suffer and painful
    creatures to never become humans and buried alive under earth and even
    killed into stomaches and made to toilets and throughn into hells like
    toilets
    cause —-Culprits and cruel peoples , who had done cruelities
    on brahma and saraswati , and ganga and sita , ahiyilia , draupdi and on
    many goddesses and gods ,and on good peoples ,

    {my views , which i found some what truth )my views may or may not be acceptable truth.}

    Many ramayanas are there , like valmiki ,vashist ,kamb, ramanujan ,ramayanaa are few of many other versons of ramayana ,
    what is the meaning of ramayana found ,– ramayana = ram +ayan ( ayan meaning came ) ,

    according
    to some stories ahyilyia was cursed by gotham rishi , Ahalya was
    converted to stone ,As for Ahalya, Gautama granted her the boon that she
    would be brought back to human form by the touch of the feet of Lord
    Rama .
    so rama avatar would had been made (incarnated) ,thus how many ramas would had been created ,

    would gotham rishi would be knowing about rama avatar ?

    like
    ramayana so many ahilya versons are there ,( like in a verson , ganga
    tells to gautam , it is mid night not the bath time go to home and see
    some thing would have been wrong ) .

    how many Ahilyas storeies
    would had been made and how many gautams would had been made and how
    many ahilyas lifes would had been spoiled ,how many indras would had
    been made and how many girls/boys souls would had been made to sit in
    hen or cock and make sound (cock crow) .thus how many would had been
    made culprits ,sinners ,bad brains ,bad habituals of bad acts and bad
    karma .
    and those cuilprits , sinners are/would had been made to quarrel and killed in the wars of ramanyana .?

    mahabharta
    , would had took placed for the revenges and the cruelties happened on
    ladies ( like savarupnakha ,sita ) . to show the cruelities ,gamblings
    were played and sarees were made to removed

    like ramayana vishvamitra story would have many versons and vishvamitras

    mahabharata
    would had been happened for revenges of ramayana and ramayana would had
    been happened for ahiylia and what would be reason behind ahiliyia
    insult was conspirancies or any ones evil idea .

    really how many
    would had been real culptits and how many would had been created and how
    many would had been victims of vengences and eneyminities and how many
    peoples souls would had been killed

    killed peoples would had been
    given births to different parents , differnt mothers ,different fathers
    , and thus differnt marrages would had taken places in past birth some
    ones mothers would had been wife of some another person .and some wrong
    and illigal methods and would had been used like rapes for the birth and
    for enemities and revenges .
    thus quarrels would had been on increasing ,and peoples and souls became culprits and victims .
    according
    to one of the satguru video in the past arround 18 millions years 1.8
    crores years ago and one of the papa ji ( h.l. punja ) video , arround
    80 millilons years ,8 crores years ago some incarnations had took placed
    and some wrong things and wrong marrages and wrong interchanged
    childrens were given births by the other not by their husbands .
    like this millions and millions peoples are accused .

    ( peoples which had to make lifes good and better , used the criminals
    ,and wrong ideas and methods for spoiling and destroying the lifes )

    More than 99 % of peoples, gods ,souls had been inocents ,had not been
    victims . if polatictics , conspirancies , crimanilites ,some wrong
    traditions and some wrong rules of few from the ancient times would had
    not been made.

    why the wrong and mishappenings happened and
    happenings from the very ancient times , why peoples went wrong for
    wrong marrages wrong acts
    Why the gods , devatas , peoples and
    humans became wrong of bad wisdoms and wrong acts and bad karmas ,crores
    and crores of peoples ,were all the peoples were bad .why became bad
    instead of becoming good humans and peoples

    for examples of very few , link given below–copy & paste
    1/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2doBdnY8H8E

    2/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OByGdKO4814Why
    and pearls , the kannagi would had been the very elder to the queen .
    some mishappenings would had been taken in very past and the stories would had been going on birth by birth..

    realy how many kannagi stories would had been created , how many girls would had made kannagi ,
    how many boys and small, gods , devatas would had been made to run the story -would had made culprits and victims)

    was the kannagi story was pre planned .( because of this writing how many lifes would be spoiled )
    ——————————————————-
    as agaytiar curses to jai indra /

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaTNovJ2u3k&list=UURxRikkS_B1mWxYWrujrdnw&spfreload=10

    ——————————————————–
    What was cause behind every happening , why kovalan only became culprit or victim ,like kovalan and kanagi , how many lifes are spoiled are being spoiled from the very ancient times ( no one is blamed , blamed is the system of karmas ). what would had been the cause behind kannagi and kovalan story as if shown in the agaytiar movie agaytiar curses jaindran , and urvashi to born in the city of poompuhar .were jai indran with urvashi affairs wrong . who was jai indran , and who was urvashi .

    person the indra was accused by the great gods , the link given below

    http://www.speakingtree.in/public/spiritual-blogs/ seekers/faith-and-rituals/
    bgupta#commentlist

    .was jaiindra was indra’s real son . in agaytiar movie agaytiar says to jai indra , jaiindra you born to indra and you have not understand me

    in dasavataram old movie,durvasa rishi curses to indra story might had link ,
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FesZ3592YHg
    poompuhar ‘s story and history is match able to the story shown in agaythyiar movie — as agaythiar curses —
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh4_NTH_qW0&featur e=related

    crores and crores of peoples are being killed ,destryoed in such a way no one can find out , and given different shapes and made to bad brains and minds ,
    genetical deshaped and disorded to lusty and bad brains and bad minds .
    are made from single soul to multy humans souls to suffer and painful
    creatures to never become humans and buried alive under earth and even
    killed into stomaches and made to toilets and throughn into hells like
    toilets—

    Kannagi story was repeated again in the ambala under earth , this time also great cruilities happend on kannagi ,

    if i am not wrong , kannagi , (tamil) is the daughter or sister of great and very ancient god can be said southern god . .

    why the cruilities and mishappenings were and are happening again and again , what is the wrong with peoples and peoples went of wrong wisdom and misbehavings and bad acts ..
    and peoples are beaten very badly and broken and even buried alive by the great gods and goddesses and great humans gods like murgan bhiraspaty ,bharama ,
    dakshina moorty , narayanan , and many power full and great gods ..

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    Draupady , ganga ,kannagi , bhooma devi , saraswaties . sitas , and other devies and other good peoples were always and again and again insulted and were victim of cruielties and crimes .and girls like taraka(tataka) and her mother and her souls were accused and culprits and of cruilities ,why could not become good humans and peoples like others . why peoples became so bad and wrong even girl and ladies insulted ladies ,

    Was kunti and kunti’s humans and other souls were real cuilprits , in the 2012 ,13 ,2014 were beaten and killed very badlly by the gods like bharama , guru bhiraspati ,dakshina moorti , two goddess might be ganga and draupadi and other gods like may be ram ,krishna , and others .of many mahabharata story of one kunty was mother of human of taraka or taraka sister .according to one story draupadi was boon/cursed by shiva of five husdands . kunti and kunti’s humans and other souls would had been culprits or guilty of revenges .

    Were putana , who tried to kill krishna by making drink milk and other women ,like holika ,who tried to burn krishna and other womens and others were culprits or were became the cuplprits of wrong and bad traditions or bad karmas of karmas or some other traditions

    Why krishna ,rama ,shiva and others mahans elder peoples were good peoples and indras and others peoples were bad
    crores and crores have been destroyed and are being buried alive under earths , throughwn into hells and made landless ,
    why others peoles could not become good humans and good peoples

    who were those peoples , which has been and being killed ,destroyieded ,
    whose generations were , why were bad peoples , were really bad , why
    could not became good peoples ,

    Were rama and ravana were
    enemy ? , if i am not wrong rama shakti and murgan and veerbhadra are
    same avatars .(savarupnaga , ravana sister and sita might had been the close
    relative) .
    which peoples would had some wrong and intercaste marrages . intercaste marrages would had been the cause of quarrels there would had been great conspirancies to kill the peoples. which were from the westren and south westron parts of himayalas .in many stories of dakasa prajapati story also many wrong and multy wifes and mishappenigs happened . ( peoples which had to make lifes good and better , used the criminals ,enemities and wrong ideas and methods for spoiling and destroying the lifes )

    Culprits and cruel peoples , who had done cruelities
    on brahma and saraswati , and ganga and sita , ahiyilia , draupdi and on
    many goddesses and gods ,and on good peoples ,

    crores and crores of peoples are being killed ,destryoed in such a way no one can find out , and given different shapes and made to bad brains and minds ,
    genetical deshaped and disorded to lusty and bad brains and bad minds .
    are made from single soul to multy humans souls to suffer and painful
    creatures to never become humans and buried alive under earth and even
    killed into stomaches and made to toilets and throughn into hells like
    toilets
    cause —-Culprits and cruel peoples , who had done cruelities
    on brahma and saraswati , and ganga and sita , ahiyilia , draupdi and on
    many goddesses and gods ,and on good peoples ,

    {my views , which i found some what truth )my views may or may not be acceptable truth.}

    Many ramayanas are there , like valmiki ,vashist ,kamb, ramanujan ,ramayanaa are few of many other versons of ramayana ,
    what is the meaning of ramayana found ,– ramayana = ram +ayan ( ayan meaning came ) ,

    according
    to some stories ahyilyia was cursed by gotham rishi , Ahalya was
    converted to stone ,As for Ahalya, Gautama granted her the boon that she
    would be brought back to human form by the touch of the feet of Lord
    Rama .
    so rama avatar would had been made (incarnated) ,thus how many ramas would had been created ,

    would gotham rishi would be knowing about rama avatar ?

    like
    ramayana so many ahilya versons are there ,( like in a verson , ganga
    tells to gautam , it is mid night not the bath time go to home and see
    some thing would have been wrong ) .

    how many Ahilyas storeies
    would had been made and how many gautams would had been made and how
    many ahilyas lifes would had been spoiled ,how many indras would had
    been made and how many girls/boys souls would had been made to sit in
    hen or cock and make sound (cock crow) .thus how many would had been
    made culprits ,sinners ,bad brains ,bad habituals of bad acts and bad
    karma .
    and those cuilprits , sinners are/would had been made to quarrel and killed in the wars of ramanyana .?

    mahabharta
    , would had took placed for the revenges and the cruelties happened on
    ladies ( like savarupnakha ,sita ) . to show the cruelities ,gamblings
    were played and sarees were made to removed

    like ramayana vishvamitra story would have many versons and vishvamitras

    mahabharata
    would had been happened for revenges of ramayana and ramayana would had
    been happened for ahiylia and what would be reason behind ahiliyia
    insult was conspirancies or any ones evil idea .

    really how many
    would had been real culptits and how many would had been created and how
    many would had been victims of vengences and eneyminities and how many
    peoples souls would had been killed

    killed peoples would had been
    given births to different parents , differnt mothers ,different fathers
    , and thus differnt marrages would had taken places in past birth some
    ones mothers would had been wife of some another person .and some wrong
    and illigal methods and would had been used like rapes for the birth and
    for enemities and revenges .
    thus quarrels would had been on increasing ,and peoples and souls became culprits and victims .
    according
    to one of the satguru video in the past arround 18 millions years 1.8
    crores years ago and one of the papa ji ( h.l. punja ) video , arround
    80 millilons years ,8 crores years ago some incarnations had took placed
    and some wrong things and wrong marrages and wrong interchanged
    childrens were given births by the other not by their husbands .
    like this millions and millions peoples are accused .

    ( peoples which had to make lifes good and better , used the criminals
    ,and wrong ideas and methods for spoiling and destroying the lifes )

    More than 99 % of peoples, gods ,souls had been inocents ,had not been
    victims . if polatictics , conspirancies , crimanilites ,some wrong
    traditions and some wrong rules of few from the ancient times would had
    not been made.

    why the wrong and mishappenings happened and
    happenings from the very ancient times , why peoples went wrong for
    wrong marrages wrong acts
    Why the gods , devatas , peoples and
    humans became wrong of bad wisdoms and wrong acts and bad karmas ,crores
    and crores of peoples ,were all the peoples were bad .why became bad
    instead of becoming good humans and peoples

    for examples of very few , link given below–copy & paste
    1/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2doBdnY8H8E

    2/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OByGdKO4814Why

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